Friday, March 1, 2013

1 Journal or 2?

To clarify terminology, I am using "The Times" to refer to what we were calling the "Perspectives" journal, and "Perspectives" to actually refer to a kind of article. In general I can conceive of three different kinds of articles/approaches:


  1. Non-disciplinarian articles accessible across any discipline - focusing on identifying and reporting on cool new research, exposing important problems we all face and identifying what people are currently doing to tackle them, etc. etc.
    1. Essentially the research-based version of Spec articles - very much reporting journalism centric - imagine a more synthetic, academically integral, and broader (encompassing more fields) NYT science & tech section
  2. "Perspectives" articles - short (1-3 page) analysis of a problem of general interest, methods that have been taken to approach this issue from different fields, a synthesis of these ideas and a proposed solution for improvement
    1. Concrete example
  3. Interdisciplinary research article submissions that are still accessible to an audience outside of the specific discipline of study, but with a considerable degree of technical quality and not necessarily non-disciplinarian in the broadest sense, which #1 is

Synthesis of these ideas:

Two journals: the "Times" would encapsulate article type 1, the "CURJ" having types 2 and 3. The reason for this distinction in my mind is that the two attempt to capture two very different audiences, and combining them risks the ostracizing of both reading constituencies. If we want #1 to be commercially accessible (imagine someone on the street reading about new developments on global warming), it can highlight but cannot really engage too deeply with the actual research upon which it stands. On the other hand #3 is something that, I think, can aim to satisfy a much more academically minded audience (not necessarily just academia itself, but someone actively engaged in their field professionally rather than someone waiting at the dentist's office)

As many of you pointed out, however, if we were to simply stack together articles from different fields next to each other (purely #3), we would be a multidisciplinary journal competing with everyone and not necessarily contributing anything unique to the Columbia community. At the same time, I think there is certainly a space for truly interdisciplinary work on campus, and for a better research journal--the question, of course, is how to accomplish this? To this end, here are two points:
  1. The key challenge is, of course, finding interdisciplinary articles. I think this could be done in a number of ways in the short term:
    1. Reaching out to professors teaching interdisciplinary seminars or courses that lie at the nexus of different perspectives, and seeing if their students want to submit to the journal. Odds are we can get interesting submissions from there.
    2. Sending out word across the listservs/departments for what we're looking for--especially in the social sciences, I know people often write analytic articles synthesizing research from the field with a proposed solution at the end that aren't necessarily embedded in statistical analysis, etc. Maybe something like that.
  2. I think that #2 can be a really innovative approach that changes how people approach undergraduate research journals, and help us incentivize people pick it up
    1. We could work together with the author to write "Perspectives" articles that encompass the earlier description, serving to provide a contextualization for the following research article, which expands a specific point within that broader problem. I think that framing it that way would make these research articles more accessible--if we can tell people why it's important to read the article before actually exposing them to the manuscript itself, they're more likely to read it. Especially at the undergraduate level.
    2. These "Perspectives" are especially interesting because they would not just be review articles synthesizing what has been done, but also critically evaluating those decisions thus far and thinking about what can be done.
    3. I think this kind of article could be made accessible to a general audience, as the example shows, so that people not necessarily versed in the field of the research article would still want to read these new Perspectives, especially since they prescribe some sort of solution. The reason I don't think this fits with "The Times" is because of the nature of such an article. As you can see from the example, while it is accessible, it takes a certain kind of analytic to engage with and appreciate such an article, and while there is certainly a broad readership for such an article, and a void to fill in that regards, I think it's a different readership than type #1.
That's what page I'm on at the moment--I think looking at these different approaches synthetically, it makes sense to have a journal for #1, and a separate journal for #2 and #3. I think the synthesis of #2/#3 and the types of articles we can collect can really put us on a different plane from other undergraduate research journals, and, indeed, that there is a void for a journal that attempts to engage its audience about what their peers are working on, and the professional fields at large outside of what specifically the individual may be working on. #1 is equally exciting, I think, in its potential to convey information that, while not as technically intensive, are still embedded in research and make it accessible to someone not in that field.

Certainly there is a synergistic interaction here, I think. Anyways, these are my thoughts--please post your own, whether it's a response to these ideas or a complete slash and reconceptualization! We'd love to hear any and all thoughts about this :)

--Darpan

7 comments:

  1. I think it makes sense to materialize our three different directions for interdisciplinary efforts on campus into two specific journals. I think; however, that doing so obviously poses some straightforward challenges in the short run. As an organization in its formative stages we are already stretched for resources and so given this context, the prospect of two separate journals can be difficult.

    However, despite this immediate problem I think our decision has to be based on what we envision to be an effective model for LionTank five or even ten generations from now. With that in mind, I agree with Darpan that coalescing all three of our ideas into one single journal doesn't necessarily make sense. I think all three of our ideas are extremely valuable, and when it really comes down to it I don't think we will necessarily be strained for resources/funding either.

    As Tom Keen, our new Director of the Think Tank put it, we are far more likely to be successful if for each journal we pick one thing and we do it well. At the same time, I think one great point that was brought up by Jessica Li that effectively qualifies my own assertion here is that to a certain degree we should not be afraid of juxtaposing diverse material together in one journal since the audience is likely to flip through the issue and find whatever section they prefer the most.

    So given both approaches, my personal tentative stance is that we should have 2 journals. I have gone back and forth on this 1/2 journal(s) issue; however, as of now I think it would be most effective to include approaches "2" and "3" in the CURJ and create a second specific journal for idea "1".

    I honestly really want to hear what you guys have to stay, so when you get a chance jump on and post your thoughts on the topic before the Board meeting.

    Best,

    Akshay

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  2. Since it's always good to have conflicting views on important matters, I'm going to make a case for having only one journal. My reasoning doesn't have anything to do with short-term struggles with funding or resources but instead with the idea of Lion Tank as a single organization. As the Think Tank portion of Lion Tank continues to pursue an increasingly social and humanitarian focus in terms of potential projects, I have come to realize that I don’t feel that the strictly academic CURJ would have a significant or meaningful interaction with the Think Tank. Initially, the reasoning behind the CURJ-Think Tank interaction was that, through its submissions, CURJ could identify quality undergraduate research projects that could work together to produce even more interesting collaborative projects that could be facilitated and given resources via the Think Tank. Amidst questions regarding how many truly interdisciplinary submissions CURJ will get and whether the authors of the best submissions would be interested in embarking on these collaborative projects, I wanted to pose the question of whether CURJ would truly have a major synergistic relationship with the Think Tank.

    The less formal nature of "The Times" (the Perspectives journal), on the other hand, is perfect for the exploration of broader humanitarian and social questions in addition to the discussion of the general academic questions that the second journal was conceived to include. Hence, this journal can include articles of types 1 and 2 as denoted in Darpan's original post. This journal also presents a great forum in which to publish information about humanitarian/social projects that the Think Tank is actively implementing or designing, which can act as an outreach to any interested students as well as the general public. By combining this kind of journal with our current conception of the Think Tank, I see Lion Tank as a whole being a much more cohesive organization with a clearer purpose, while the purely formal and academic CURJ feels more like a cool idea made into a forced tie-in. Finally, while I understand that eliminating a journal will trim our readership at the two extremes, I find myself hoping that the "perspectives" of our editors and the Think Tank projects that we’ll be writing about will be interesting enough to get a sizeable population to give our publication a chance. That's just my two cents.

    - Srinjoy

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  3. I definitely think that we should keep "The Times" and the research journal separate. I think that combining them would negatively impact the readership, because at this point the main attraction of each journal is that it has a very specific audience in mind, and is very aware of what a reader hopes to gain from reading either journal. The average "Times" reader hopes to gain a basic understanding of unfamiliar topics, and to think of new connections between ideas or disciplines that they had not previously related. The average reader of the research journal hopes to gain a deep understanding of a particular topic, and to explore new ways of relating their area of study to other disciplines.

    As I understand it, the "Times" is a publication that readers would hopefully read all the way through, while readers would probably select a few articles from the research journal to read, because of its depth and interdisciplinary nature. Readers would come to both publications with different goals, and thus combining both journals would, I think, detract from the experience for both kinds of readers. Darpan wrote about a "synergistic interaction" between the two journals, and I think that we could facilitate this through the website. If they shared a website then they could work well together, without having to sacrifice readership.


    One of my concerns is that eventually the "Times" will become a sort of abridged version of the research journal, intended solely to raise readership for the main research journal. While I do think that some of the topics addressed in the "Times" could evolve into longer research articles, I think that we should be wary that the "Times" does not become a sort of "little sibling" to the research journal.

    -Yeye

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  4. This is unfortunately going to be very brief, but I'm with Srinjoy, when it comes to my feeling that a journal consisting of articles of types 1 and 2 makes a little more sense, when it comes to what Lion Tank wants to do. My doubts about the number of submissions of type 3 we would get aside, I also believe it's quite doable to 'turn' a type 3 into type 2, so to speak, by framing one's (interdisciplinary) research in the context of a broader issue, if necessary.

    Also, since we've received the feedback from professors that they wouldn't really be interested in reading straight-up undergrad research, what do we expect that target audience to really be, for such a journal?

    - Yoshi

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  5. I like your ideas, Darpan. However, I think that it will be difficult to find interdisciplinary material. What I would propose for the CURJ journal is to focus on #2 above, add a modified #3 which are articles that focus on one topic of interest (basically, more traditional research), and more organically include other elements which stress the interdisciplinary dialogue that can occur. For example, having key phrases/topics at the tops of articles could help academics tune into universal concepts. #2 could also help a lot in this regard. Even further, having dialogues between the articles actually play out in the journal could be something interesting to explore.

    As a corollary to this, Columbia Business School has a nice model for a journal which I'd like to present at the meeting: basically taking academic articles and reducing them to a one page, accessible summary (and a citation/link where people can find the whole article). In this summary, we can describe the research, its implications, and its interdisciplinary applications? If we follow this model, we can include #2 in a way that references the research on the previous pages, thus making the journal a cohesive place of dialogue.

    For the Perspectives journal, we can maybe use it as a platform to report on new developments in the field beyond undergraduate research for an undergraduate audience, report it in accessible ways, and really focus on interdisciplinary links between subjects in these articles? In other words, a place wherein we can push the boundaries of what we know into the professional research world. Thus, CURJ would represent what we (undergraduates) are working on/issues we are tackling and Perspectives could be what we are learning from others?

    More on all this later--I'm sorry that my ideas are a bit scattered right now!

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  6. I think we initially need to plan our just how interconnected we are planning to be with the work of the think tank. If we are planning to work on very similar issues, then I think Srinjoy's idea has great potential. The only thing that I would be concerned about is that our journal is primarily submission based, so how would we be making sure that our issues are in the same vein as those of the think tank?

    The primary advantage of journal #3 is that is entirely related to the research being done by our peers and only within the Columbia community. If we were to make a move towards #2, we should think about incorporating the same sense of inclusiveness so that we will be able to set ourselves apart from a usual journalistic publication (NY Times, PopSci, etc.). There's a chance we will end up running into the same issue with getting submissions, although from our interviews, I felt like there was a palpable interest in submitting research.

    I really like Kevin's idea of having the journal act in the #2 capacity, and having the full length research available on-demand on our website. However, this would mean having to maintain and update our website constantly, and I am not sure about our web developing situation.

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  7. I think that we should have two separate publications, however I don't think that the divide is strictly between types 1, 2 and 3. I think it would be interesting to have a longer, more "traditional" journal that incorporates #2 and #3 as well as non interdisciplinary full length research articles. So that as Hari said, we could see the work done by our peers but also keep true to the interdisciplinary goal of the journal. Furthermore, a journal can have different sections, so one section can have a few articles that don't have to be necissarily related and then another section can have an article (by our peers) that is spotlighted and then has a series of shorter articles that put it into the context of other fields, etc, like #2 type.

    Then the Times can work as a shorter, less formal publication (aimed at a less technical audience) that is also themed. Therefore it can be a combination of undergraduate and popular research as well as critical shorter articles that assess the situation from different angles/disciplines and provide a platform of discussion about the topic and offer a possible solution. For example, an article about the death of Hugo Chavez would incite a publication about his/ South American politics and then from there we can asses how international relations, economics, culture, history and environment factor into policy making in South America.

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